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cyndrarae

On the brink of surrender...

I used to be immensely anti-RPS once... but that changed and I blame the brilliantly talented (and kinky) LOTR RPS authors for that. Pfft. But I still couldn't bring myself to write RPS myself somehow. On top of that I have this ginormous problem with abuse and death fics in RPS. I don't care how you rationalize it, I will never condone fantasies about a real person (and especially someone I adore as much as Jensen and Jared) or even the semblance of that person being abused or raped or maimed or whatever... Gawd. Sure you could grill me further about mental abuse versus physical abuse, but I'd be at a loss to draw the line any fuck where. I just know I don't want to even think of them being tortured in any sense of the word. Even abuse to a family member. *shudders* Never. To each his or her own of course. Not judging anyone, I promise, just saying I personally don't like reading that kind of stuff.

So that leaves only fluffy stuff, or even better.. fluffy AU stuff and I enjoy that very very much. A little heartbreak is fine so long as it's a happy ending with J2 getting together hehe. Except..... I have this major thing for bottom!Jared and always wondered why there isn't enough of that in this fandom. Found an answer here by moordeb and it explains a lot...

I love bottom!Jared, but he's hard to find, I think it's because authors subconsciously apply the yaoi rule (tallest is always the seme (top), prettiest is always the uke (bottom)).

Hmm... rule huh? *smirks* Like my first love Jim Morrison once said... I like ideas about the breaking away of overthrowing of established order. I am interested in anything about revolt, disorder and chaos - especially activity that seems to have no meaning :D And who the hell says Jared is not pretty? Heck he's the prettiest thing ever and not even Jensen comes close!!! *pouts*

So you see the rub right? I don't wanna get into writing RPS. But now I am tempted.. no, seriously tempted... to fix this heartbreaking dearth of bottom!Jared fics and.. well... *facepalm* To break my own rule or not to break my own rule....  Le sigh.

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See, I find a lot of bottom!Sam, but not too much bottom!Jared. He's still the tallest, so your logic failed you.

I like romantic RPS, but still can't bring myself to enjoy certain ships. I think, because we have more Jared/Jensen than Jared/Sandy, it makes it better, but I can't read Milo/Adrian, because Adrian Pasdar is married to Natalie from the Dixie Chicks and I have too much respect for her. Sorry, rambling.

It's not my logic hon.. it's the logic stated to explain why there are so few bottom!Jared fics. But yeah even if it is true both you and I defy it completely :)

but I can't read Milo/Adrian, because Adrian Pasdar is married to Natalie from the Dixie Chicks and I have too much respect for her.

Haha, that's kinda sweet, and funny :D I didn't know he was married to Natalie though. That is so cool!

Dont't worry hon, rambling is very welcome here on this LJ ;)

As somebody who adores your Sam/Dean fic, I for one would be extremely happy if you broke your own rule and wrote some bottom!Jared fic...... there is just not enough around....plus RULES??? pfft they're there to be broken aren't they? But that's me the eternal anarchist.

Believe me hon, it's massively tempting. But I'm sure it's just my general frame of mind right now, craving for some Jared-centric smut and all... eh and the fact that I may be procrastinating with my "of hot showers" writing just a teensy little bit heh ;-P

But that's me the eternal anarchist.
Ah! *nods* That would explain the two of us being friends ;-)

I believe I have a few bottom!Jared saved in my memories. I can check for you, it'll take a bit but I can do it, if you want.

You're kidding me right sweetie? I want! I SO want! :D:D Thank you so much hon *hugs* :)

*looks hopeful* Please break it???

*facepalm* Baby, how the HELL did you manage to convince me with just five words?? :)

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See, my main fandom (I moderate the message board) is RPS, and the guys in AFI know that there's a fairly huge (considering the state of their popularity) slashfic community involving them screwing each other.

Unfortunately a while back several different magazines decided to keep bringing it up during interviews, resulting in an influx of people who hadn't a clue about respect for the community or the band, resulting in more uncreative, badly written fics. While the boys are tired of having it brought up when they're supposed to be talking about their new album, and the guitarist is fed up because "Why does it always have to be gay?" they seem to be okay or uncaring about it. The singer (the guy on the left in my icon) actually once said "Well at least they're being creative" and asked to keep some fanart involving his decapitated body being raped by the bassist, seemed really excited about it.

When it comes to angst, suicide, rape, etc. in RPS, the story itself doesn't necessarily have anything to do with the RP being used as characters; it may be something that actually occurred to the writer, who is trying to work through their issues in a constructive, creative way. The character is basically a sock puppet so that it is the issues being focused on, not the characterization. Or, it is an issue that the person him/herself has alluded to publicly, that the writer is curious about and wishes to explore in-depth, based on their idea of who the person is rather than utilizing their public persona.

The singer (the guy on the left in my icon) actually once said "Well at least they're being creative" and asked to keep some fanart involving his decapitated body being raped by the bassist, seemed really excited about it.

Haha that's cute of him. I am sure most celebrities know when they're being written about, fiction and RPS. I guess you're saying since AFI is okay with it then it's cool yeah? I admit it does help a LOT, knowing they don't mind. But I think it's all in one's own head. Personally me, I wouldn't want to be featured in someone's rape or torture fantasy, hell no. And that's why I wouldn't do the same to anyone else, you know?

And I completely understand that most of us use writing as a way to vent and work through our own issues and such. I do it myself hon. But I would rather stick to fictional characters for that because of my beliefs as given above. Projecting your hot smut fantasies on hot looking guys.. I understand, hell I read 'cause it's all good fun :P:D But projecting my issues at them, imagining them going through a version (sometimes an extreme one) of what I went through? *winces* Nah, I adore them too much to do that. But again hon like I said, it's the way we're wired individually. Same reason why slash works for some and not for others. And why wincest works for some and not for others :)

Sorry for rambling!

Writing bottom!Jared was the reason why I started writing RPS. I used to get really squicked by the idea of it, but then it began to grow on me, but there was so little that I could read because all of it was bottom!Jensen, and that just wasn't my preference.

I have a list of links set up at del.icio.us, with 41 bottom!Jared fics, and I know that there are at least a few more out there that I haven't tagged: http://del.icio.us/albydarned/bottom!jared

And back from my own yaoi days (a long, LONG time ago) there was also a consideration of age in there as well. Younger = bottom too, and Jared is DEF. the younger of the pair. *nods*

Writing bottom!Jared was the reason why I started writing RPS. I used to get really squicked by the idea of it, but then it began to grow on me, but there was so little that I could read because all of it was bottom!Jensen, and that just wasn't my preference.

You and I are extremely like-minded when it comes to JP hon :) Guess I am past the squick stage, now it's just about putting pen to paper and let it out heh. I can just about read bottom Jensen or Dean.. but like you said it's just not the same, doesn't work for me.

Thanks for that list hon, have read everything on it heh :)

Younger = bottom too, and Jared is DEF. the younger of the pair. *nods*

TRUE!! The age difference works for Sam and Dean because the plot highlights that fact very often. But I guess we've always seen the boys clowning around together in RL and we kind of forget there is an age gap there. Also, I think JP is more outgoing and JA is sorta shy and reserved? Maybe that's another yaoi rule or something *shrugs*

Screw the rules I say :) Looking forward to reading more bottom!Jared fics from you hon!

Hee... I had to come here (out of curiosity) and share my thoughts.....eep! (you did friend me..heh, so now you're stuck with me.....*grins*)

Hmm... RPS...... You know, I used to leave RPS at peace,just because it was about real people... but then.. one of my friends on this forum recommended me some fics and one of them was RPS....oh, and I was a goner... LOL

First I was also little bit distracted with the idea that these are real people, but then I kinda forgot all about that because some of the stories can really be so **** well written, with a decent storyline and characterization... And I in a way (when I read RPS)I don't really think about the RL Jared and Jensen (or whoever it might be) because usually it is the writers version of them that is so strong that it's easy to estrange myself from the "real life examples".. They are like characters of their own, not even meant to be what the real J and J are...

And I'm really ashamed how fast I got accustomed to RPS after that...(!!! LMAO!!) Now I can read pretty much everything...
I don't know how other fic readers think about this, but that is my way....

Does that make sense? XD

Oh please write RPS !! Heee!!! bottom!Jared!!! ;D
(I am the little devil sitting at the left shoulder LOL!!!)

SPN totally broke a lot of us out of our inhibitions didn't it? There was a time I couldn't read incest or RPS at all!! And now look at me lol.

And I in a way (when I read RPS)I don't really think about the RL Jared and Jensen (or whoever it might be) because usually it is the writers version of them that is so strong that it's easy to estrange myself from the "real life examples".. They are like characters of their own, not even meant to be what the real J and J are...

See that again is an example of how we rationalize inside our minds, convince ourselves it's okay. Me.. personally I'm still not convinced haha :D I feel totally guilty for enjoying an RPS story :D:D And I'm only half-kidding :D

Yep everything you said makes a whole lot of sense hon. It's good to hear what other people of subjects like these which are to me still not clearly resolved in my head. I mean - slash - hell yeah, I am totally convinced it's a bloody good thing. The more people we get to read slash the lesser number of homophobics will be left in this world. Wincest - well uhh, I'm 90% convinced it's fine 'cause they're brothers and no danger of pregnancy or inbred genetic disorders and whathaveyous. So I'm more than okay with that. And RPS I just told you.. think I'm 50% there. Let's see if I manage to write something heh ;) cheers hon!

Hey sweetie! I didn't always read RPS either, but it's been growing on me recently. And I think that Jared is usually prettier than whoever he's paired with, even if he is taller. Break your rule, I'd love to read it!

Oh, and I was reading a few more of your fics here and on Jen's group, so I hope you don't mind if I add you to my flist becuase I'm really enjoying them. ;)

Cam

And I think that Jared is usually prettier than whoever he's paired with, even if he is taller.

Yes!! My thoughts exactly! His good looks are truly unconventional in that despite his strong slavic jawline (that makes him look like a freaking God of masculinity!), he still manages to pull off a little boy look with his floppy hair and cute as hell dimples :D And perfect teeth haha! ;) God he's pretty *deep sighs*

Added you right back!! cheers hon :) *hugs*

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:D:D I know it's really funny isn't it? :D But such are the rules of yaoi apparently. *shrugs* Obviously I don't agree with it.

People who decide or write it or agree with this ''rule'' are definitly not gay!!!!

ROTFL!!! I agree hon!! :) They must be women like me projecting their feminity over one of the guys and that's why, because women and small and petite, they would want the bottom guy to also be small and petite and pretty like them.

Well FUCK THAT!! I don't agree one bit!! And god look at Sammy's face!!! How could anyone possibly say he's not pretty anyway? :D

Now i decide that brunette suck dick better than red hair woman! Tell everyone! This is a new rule!!!!!

LOL!! I will hon :) I will LOL!

I'm not really in RPS but bottom!jared are really hot!
Between your hands it will be gold!
I'm totally with you sweetie!


Oh, thank you so much sweetheart! I don't think I'd still be writing if I didn't have you support and encouragement :) SO ahem, I did write an RPS bottom!Jared :D And oh God I'm so nervous about it. But what the hell.. I'm gonna post anyway hehe. cheers hon! :) *hugs and kisses*


I am very very in the same with you!!
I do really love Sammy is Uke
and I love only Jared is UKE!

This is very hard to find. I can not stand Sammy or Jared is Seme. I have been found Sammy or Jared bottom for a long time *BUT* I fail T____T

This situation is really hurt me T__T

Why's not Jared bottom???

Jared is bright and Cute!!
He is so really cute!! And he must be Uke unquestionable

ps. Sorry i have not ask for permission before posted yet. I just really glad that found youe entry. Please forgive me if i do the wrong




I'm really happy that you posted! :) It's always great to hear from people who agree with on this. Jared should totally be a Uke! There is something about him, a mischievous innocence and an amazing vulnerability that normally people don't see just because of his physical build. But I would always write him and his character Sam as Uke no matter what :) If you want, you can read my SPN stories.. he's always the focus and the Uke :)

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